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Huge Lot of 32 New/Unused Phogenix C41 35mm Film Processors and Parts
$ 38544
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If you're a film photography fan, you might have already read the story about these machines which I wrote for PetaPixel in November 2017. If not, a quick google of "Phogenix PetaPixel" will take you to it. That's a good starting point!After finding the machines I dragged them out of where they were stored, unwrapped them, and rolled them into a new storage space, where they wouldn't be near the clutter of construction and at risk of being scrapped or damaged. In the meantime I ordered some Kodak SM chemistry packs, picked one machine, plugged it in, mixed the starter chemistry, and got the machine running. I then ran a few hundred rolls of C41 negative film for friends and friends-of-friends. It works! They work! And they live up to the name -- "One Touch". Tape the film to the leader, insert in the light-tight compartment, close the door, and push a button. Less than 10 minutes later you have fully processed, dried negatives out the other side of the machine.
But I'm getting ahead of myself.
The goal, from the beginning, was to save these machines from the metal scrapper. I have a long and nostalgia filled history with film and didn't want these to get melted down and turned into something as mundane as the muffler for someone's minivan. Of course, if we could make a few bucks in the process, all the better. After moving these all to a safer, cleaner storage and taking some photos for the PetaPixel article I started to look into what it would take to use the machines. Some Google searching and talking to a few local minilab operators led me to figure out the (easy) formulation of the starter chemistry. I was able to order a few packs of Kodak SM chemistry easily enough and next thing I knew, the machine I had picked was churning through film.
Then came the news...Kodak was discontinuing Kodak SM chemistry packs. Yes, cruel fate...less than 3 months after we excavated these machines from a trailer where they had sat for 15+ years, Kodak pulled the rug out from under us and discontinued the chemistry formulation that these machines are programmed to run on. I ordered a few extra packs and we sat back to consider our options.
Fast forward to today, two years later...a busy photography schedule and myriad other projects have kept me from dedicating any real amount of time to the problem, and I certainly don't have the electronics skills to reprogram the machines for different chemistry (as I understand it, you'd need to adjust replenishment amounts and adjust the movement time of the film through the different tanks) or the chemistry skills to try and reverse-engineer the Kodak SM formulation.
It's possible that it's not a lot of work to reprogram the machines. Maybe a standalone Arduino processor needs to be installed to control the timing. It could be that switching to Fuji chemistry is just a matter of having some plastic tanks rotomolded to fit into the SM pack slots and filling them with the right mixtures of replenishment chemistry. I just don't know.
What I do know is that I don't have the time or ability to make it happen, but I still hold onto my belief that these machines have value in the modern world where 35mm film is reemerging as a fairly large sized market for photography hobbyists, and where no new 35mm minilab processors have been manufactured for over a decade. Today more than ever, it would be a shame to let them be melted down and turned into scrap.
So here we are -- we're floating them out there to the world. This listing is for everything we rescued from that truck. There are about 32 machines (I need to get out to their storage and do a more accurate count, but I remember it was at least that many), about as many of the "consumables" kits included in the photos for this listing, some boxes of spare Iwaki magnetic pumps, rack gear sets, etc. Additionally, I am going to include all of the Kodak SM chemistry packs I have, which have all been properly cold-stored since I got them in early 2018. They are expired but should still yield good results. I have three full/unused packs of each of the F1 and F2 packs, and one partial of each.
Some of the machines have rodent damage from before we rescued them from the truck they had been stored in. I haven't inspected each machine, but on a few that I did look at there was just wiring damage. Easily fixable, in relative terms. Some of them have dents and dings because they were moved around and bumped around in 2002 when they were removed from the Phogenix facility and transported to the lot where they lived in the truck for 15 years. The majority of them are excellent, just like the day the wrapping was taken off a few years ago. It was always my intention to take the few machines with the biggest physical damage or worst rodent issues apart and use those for spare parts to keep the others going...and of course there's always 3D printing for spares down the line.
You are more than welcome to come to San Diego, California and inspect them in person.
Make no mistake, collectively these machines are a project. You could be up and running in just an hour or two with the one machine that I did use and the existing Kodak SM packs that are included, but once that chemistry is depleted (5000-10,000 rolls) you are going need to have a solution. There's no way around that!
All of these machines will fit in a 40-foot shipping container. As I stated above they have been removed from their old falling-apart pallets and shipping packaging and are all now rolling around on their own wheels. If you are interested and living in the USA or Mexico or Canada it's entirely possible that they could all be made to fit (creatively) in a 26+ foot moving truck. If you are international, it would be best/easiest to pack them into a 40-foot shipping container for shipment directly to your local port.
In any event I'll assist however I'm able with helping pack the machines for shipment or pickup. I'm more than happy to answer any questions you might have to the best of my ability -- please don't hesitate to contact me!